Cichorei Kano wrote:When you start asking judoka to show these throws in the opposite direction or a different direction that is not opposite, or a different pattern, many seriously struggle. By putting in structure using these terminologies at least mentally the judoka starts detaching the waza from the pattern of displacement realizing through osmosis that various patterns can lead to the same throw. Many kyû-rank holders and even some lower black belts (one notes this when preparing people for a shodan shiken) struggle for example performing okuri-ashi-barai while walking backwards or foreward, so attention from the teacher to these problems is welcome at an early stage.
As a kyû-rank I love the idea's you are proposing. However, in an earlier post I asked for a clarification of what the different styles of walking actually means? I am ofcourse familiar with ayumi-ashi, tsugi-ashi and now what suri-ashi means. However, you guys introduced two additional ones which I still dont understand. The kendo vs. judo part was confusing. I still dont understand Hikari-ashi, what is it, diagonal tsugi-ashi? Okuri-ashi is shoving forward in a tsugi-ashi fashion like the fencers do with one leg extended? (en garde
!) One day I will be teaching this stuff and want to understand. Fortunetely I learn new things every day that "western" Judo is missing out on
Please note that I made a typo in my first post; it's "hiraki-ashi", not "hikari-ashi". Please, avoid saying "hikari-ashi"; 'hikari' exists as a word too in Japanese but means something entirely different. Hiraki-ashi is a turning displacement. Say, you want to end up in a 45° angled position. Well, hiraki-ashi does that. I am not saying it implies you have to turn exactly 45°. You can turn 30°, or 60° or 90° or 110°, it does not matter. The hiraki-ashi can be performed in suri-ashi, that is with the soles of your feet remaining in contact with the tatami, or it can be performed without suri-ashi, that is your feet coming off the ground.
Where it can get confusing is that these steps can become interwined with tai-sabaki. In some stages, you can distinguish the tai-sabaki part from the steps, that is to say, you can perform the step without tai-sabaki. For example, you can perform ayumi-ashi and tsugi-ashi without any tai-sabaki. I could then say, now perform ayumi-ashi during this or that tai-sabaki; that is possible. However, I cannot say, do hiraki-ashi without tai-sabaki, since tai-sabaki is already implied there. However, I can still diversify hiraki-ashi by specifying the tai-sabaki. If I specify (I will not mention the names to avoid making this explanation more complex) that you need to do it in an 180° tai-sabaki, then that is different than the hiraki-sabaki done in 45°.
In jûdô far less attention is given to this than in karate or kendô. In karate clearly, the many karate kata, require very specific positions since their geometric patterns and positions where you are, are crucial.
With regard to the other positions, would you call this a standard ayumi-ashi or tsugi-ashi (and this is judo):
Okuri-ashi, as NBK was referring to and as it is done in many martial arts is shown here:
As you can see, it looks rather like judo's tsugi-ashi.
However, I also said that these terminologies are not the same across every martial art, or specifically are not the same in judo as in kendo.
The judo clip I posted above here, what would you call that.
A sideways displacement such as typical in okuri-ashi-barai is sometimes referred to as lateral or sideways tsugi-ashi, but sometimes also as okuri-ashi, which clearly is a totally different okuri-ashi than the one explained by NBK.
This may be confusing to you, but it isn't at all. Judo is not kendo or aikido. You will also find names of many throws that exist in other arts but are something entirely different. Ashi-barai exists in Tenjin Shin'yô-ryû jûjutsu, but is completely differerent from what de-ashi-barai is in jûdô, and is in fact what in jûdô is called ashi-guruma. Don't blame me, I did not invent this.