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    finarashi

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    Gallica e-library

    Post by finarashi on Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:19 am

    French national library has an excellent e-collection
    http://gallica.bnf.fr/Search?ArianeWireIndex=index&q=jiu+jitsu&lang=EN&n=15&p=1&pageNumber=23&isSearch=false

    The site allows you either to browse online or download as pdf
    You can also browse in English but no transaltion


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    Re: Gallica e-library

    Post by judo66 on Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:55 am

    finarashi wrote:French national library has an excellent e-collection
    http://gallica.bnf.fr/Search?ArianeWireIndex=index&q=jiu+jitsu&lang=EN&n=15&p=1&pageNumber=23&isSearch=false

    The site allows you either to browse online or download as pdf
    You can also browse in English but no transaltion

    Interesting, the third book is by Feldenkrais. The introduction is signed by Jigoro Kano who indicates that he couldn't read the hebrew version since he doesn't understand that language. But the french version convinced him that it was the best book published in another language than japanese although it wasn't totally congruent with his own conception of judo.


    This being said that book is not about judo at all but self defense
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    Re: Gallica e-library

    Post by BillC on Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:44 am

    judo66 wrote:This being said that book is not about judo at all but self defense

    And these two are different ... why exactly?


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    Re: Gallica e-library

    Post by judo66 on Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:52 pm

    BillC wrote:
    judo66 wrote:This being said that book is not about judo at all but self defense

    And these two are different ... why exactly?


    If you take a look at the book you will see. It is mostly defenses against an armed or unarmed attacker. You won't see any gokyo waza or any waza you would normally teach in a usual judo syllabus.
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    Re: Gallica e-library

    Post by BillC on Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:37 pm

    judo66 wrote:
    BillC wrote:
    judo66 wrote:This being said that book is not about judo at all but self defense

    And these two are different ... why exactly?


    If you take a look at the book you will see. It is mostly defenses against an armed or unarmed attacker. You won't see any gokyo waza or any waza you would normally teach in a usual judo syllabus.

    That is indeed common ... most of the old books in my small, humble collection are like that. What do you think changed in that time, the books or judo?


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    Re: Gallica e-library

    Post by DougNZ on Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:04 pm

    BillC wrote:That is indeed common ... most of the old books in my small, humble collection are like that.  What do you think changed in that time, the books or judo?

    Books can't change, silly!
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    Re: Gallica e-library

    Post by judo66 on Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:49 am

    At the time the gokyo was already in existence and this since a long time. That book written by Feldenkrais was probably the one that Kano refers in Mind over Muscle. Following that, Feldenkrais wrote other books with techniques that are more familiar with judo.

    There was jiudo and jiu jitsu. It is my understanding that Kano managed to regroup different ju jutsuka under the judo banner not only in Japan but in Europe as well.

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