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    noboru

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    Tsunetane Oda old Newaza videos

    Post by noboru on Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:43 pm


    Tsunetane Oda - judo ne-waza 1 of 3 小田常胤


    Tsunetane Oda - judo ne-waza 2 of 3


    Tsunetane Oda - judo ne-waza 3 of 3



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    Re: Tsunetane Oda old Newaza videos

    Post by Jonesy on Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:33 am

    Believe his name was Join Oda.
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    Re: Tsunetane Oda old Newaza videos

    Post by Cichorei Kano on Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:04 am

    Jonesy wrote:Believe his name was Join Oda.

    Yep, correct reading of the kanji 常胤 in this case Jōin, the establishment the misreading probably caused to a great deal by E.J. Harrison publishing a book with Oda's techniques and on the book cover prominently --though erroneously-- featuring 'Tsunetane Oda'.


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    Re: Tsunetane Oda old Newaza videos

    Post by David Waterhouse on Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:23 am

    E.J.Harrison's silly mistake was to call Oda "Tsunetani Oda", rather than "Tsunetane"; just as he wrongly called Kawaishi Mikinosuke "Mikonosuke". The colophon of Oda's two-volume Jūdō taikan 柔道大觀 indeed gives his name in furigana as "Oda Jōin", using the more formal Sino-Japanese reading of his personal name; but Tsunetane would be equally correct, and many Japanese sources refer to him thus. I imagine that Oda was named after the famous general Chiba Tsunetane 千葉常胤 (1118-1201), one of the founders of the Kamakura shogunate. For all I know, members of his immediate family called him something else entirely.

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    Re: Tsunetane Oda old Newaza videos

    Post by Cichorei Kano on Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:49 am

    Short bio:

    小田常胤先生は明治25年3月10日南都留郡船津字浅川で父乙吉、母くまの三男として生まれました。当時、都留郡には中学がなかったので伯母の住む静岡の県立沼津中学に学んだ後、皇典講習所卒(現・国学院大学)。大正4年春に参加した講道館紅白試合は大日本柔道史に名試合として載っています。寝技を得意として、「寝技の小田」の名をほしいままにしました(特に三角絞め)。

    講道館では昭和33年から9段位を最高段位とすることとなり、小田先生はこの最高段位を得られた郷土の誇る大先輩である。


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    Re: Tsunetane Oda old Newaza videos

    Post by dlloyd on Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:04 am

    Alfredo Vismara's book Ne Waza appears to credit Oda with developing judo's ne waza to its current state, possibly completing Kano's vision. I say "appears" as it's in Italian and I'm relying on Google Translate (which can be a little unreliable):

    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WqFukgJYojUC&q=oda#v=snippetf=false

    Anyone with better Italian than me able to comment?


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