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    hobit

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    Reading Recommendations please

    Post by hobit on Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:57 am

    Newbie to Judo
    Only studied Judo on the tatami not really sure where to start on Reading or Papers on the History or ideas around judo
    Can anyone recommend a starters shortlist? not that the books have to be short.
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    Re: Reading Recommendations please

    Post by Ryvai on Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:12 pm

    hobit wrote:Newbie to Judo
    Only studied Judo on the tatami not really sure where to start on Reading or Papers on the History or ideas around judo
    Can anyone recommend a starters shortlist? not that the books have to be short.

    Some good information; http://judoinfo.com/principles.htm

    Some good books I concider must-have;

    • Kodokan Judo by Jigoro Kano - link (amazon)
    • Judo Formal Techniques by Tadao Otaki and Donn F. Draeger - link (amazon)
    • Kodokan Throwing Techniques by Toshiro Daigo - link (amazon)


    I don't have that good knowledge of books regarding specific history but there are some history in all of those books, especially the book by Draeger, which is fantastic. The book by Daigo you can use as a technique reference point from white to red belt Smile
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    Re: Reading Recommendations please

    Post by seatea on Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:18 am

    'A History of Judo' by Syd Hoare.
    'Judo Memoirs of Jigoro Kano' by Brian N. Watson.
    'The Way of Judo: A Portrait of Jigoro Kano and His Students' by John Stevens.
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    Jigoro Kano and the Kodokan - An Innovative Response To Modernisation

    Post by noboru on Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:58 am

    Very good english book about ideas, history, etc.
    Jigoro Kano and the Kodokan - An Innovative Response To Modernisation - - Kodokan Internet Shop
    Contents

    CHAPTER 1
    CONCEPTION
    Kodokan's Foundation
    The Framework for Kodokan Judo
    The Kodokan Method

    CHAPTER 2
    RATIONALISATION
    The Mindset of Kodokan Judo
    The Transition from "Jutsu" to "Do"
    Combat Principles Utilised in Spiritual Development
    ("Ju-no-ri") and Beyond
    The Ideals of Seiryoku-zenyo and Jita-kyoei

    CHAPTER 3
    SYSTEMISATION
    Judo Techniques Developed from Jujutsu
    A Summary of Judo's Technical Development
    Expansion of Technical Principles
    The Predominance of Nage-waza
    Amendments to the Gokyo-no-waza
    Katame-waza
    Atemi-waza
    Randori and Kata

    CHAPTER 4
    MATURATION
    Dojo Relocation
    Kodokan Regional Branches
    Significant Kodokan Calendar Events

    CHAPTER 5
    ORGANISATION
    Membership to the Kodokan
    Kodokan Judo Randori Match & Referee Regulations
    The Kodokan Promotion System
    The Kodokan Becomes a Foundation
    Financing the Kodokan
    The Yudansha Association
    Women's Judo
    Instructor Training
    The Judo Medical Research Group

    CHAPTER 6
    PROPAGATION
    Publications
    The Judokai (Judo Association)
    The Kodokan Bunkakai (Culture Council)
    Publishing Activities
    Physical Education and Judo in Schools
    Judo's International Spread
    Timeline of Kano Jigoro's Career and the Kodokan's Development

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    Re: Reading Recommendations please

    Post by hobit on Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:30 am

    Thank you for the recommendations I am now on the hunt for the books. Amazon UK has Syd Hoare's a history of judo £2449! or have confused things with Yen?
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    Re: Reading Recommendations please

    Post by NBK on Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:37 pm

    There are any number of entrepreneurs who would fleece the unwitting of tons of money for next to nothing. They count on fora like this to advertise for them and convince someone that things are rare and worth that insane amount of money.

    You can find any number of basic judo histories for not much money or for free.

    The Kodokan internet site mentioned has that great introduction at a decent price. Shipping is always a bit expense but that is a book you refer to for life.

    Syd Hoare's is a thoughtful overview but hardly worth 2500 pounds! maybe US$25.... or something like that.

    I wouldn't recommend Stevens' book (anymore... I did sort of recommend it when it first came out, but then read it it detail. He tends to sensationalize the story and not treat his sources correctly. Some outright errors.)

    Bear in mind that the large technical books like Daigo sensei's or Drager's also have overviews of the history and philosophy of judo, enough for a newby, so you're killing two birds with one stone.
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    Re: Reading Recommendations please

    Post by Stacey on Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:19 pm

    If in the US, I'd recommend as basic texts:

    Neil Ohlenkamp's Judo Unleashed http://judounleashed.com/

    Heyward Nishioka's Judo Heart and Soul, http://www.amazon.com/Judo-Heart-Soul-Hayward-Nishioka/dp/0897501373/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1410142400&sr=1-3&keywords=Hayward+Nishioka

    or really anything by Nishioka sensei.

    Mark Law's Pajama Game, called something else in the US, but found here: http://www.amazon.com/Falling-Hard-Journey-into-World/dp/1590307151/ref=la_B001QXER86_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1410142603&sr=1-1

    Jigoro Kano's Kodokan Judo: The Essential Guide http://www.amazon.com/Kodokan-Judo-Essential-Founder-Jigoro/dp/156836539X/ref=pd_sim_b_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1HX1CV11M4NGZDHQ4RBQ

    Tadao Otaki's Judo Formal Techniques, http://www.amazon.com/Judo-Formal-Techniques-Complete-Kodokan/dp/080481676X/ref=pd_sim_b_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=13V9DZQYEH81R584DP2M

    And go from there.
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    Re: Reading Recommendations please

    Post by Stacey on Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:21 pm

    definitely don't spend a ton of funds on books atm - get the basics. THey will cost a bit more than a typical paperback because many have diagrams and pictures, but they won't take your breath away, or contest the costs of your gi (let alone your car - $2500? that's waaayyy too much for anybody but an aficionado)
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    Post by Stacey on Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:24 pm

    oh, and you might want to hit AnnMarie De Mars' Winning on the Ground http://www.amazon.com/Winning-Ground-Training-Techniques-Fighters/dp/0897502051/ref=pd_sim_b_10?ie=UTF8&refRID=1M8JAW576ZH11KBJ7F0Z
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    Re: Reading Recommendations please

    Post by Cichorei Kano on Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:26 pm

    Stacey wrote:definitely don't spend a ton of funds on books atm - get the basics.  THey will cost a bit more than a typical paperback because many have diagrams and pictures, but they won't take your breath away, or contest the costs of your gi (let alone your car - $2500? that's waaayyy too much for anybody but an aficionado)

    What Stacey means, is that you should reserve those $2,500 for when my book come out. It comes with a free voucher for a burger.


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    Re: Reading Recommendations please

    Post by Stacey on Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:34 pm

    Cichorei Kano wrote:

    What Stacey means, is that you should reserve those $2,500 for when my book come out. It comes with a free voucher for a burger.

    It has to - who could afford to eat after taking out the loan for your book
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    Re: Reading Recommendations please

    Post by seatea on Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:57 pm

    hobit wrote:Thank you for the recommendations I am now on the hunt for the books. Amazon UK has Syd Hoare's a history of judo £2449! or have confused things with Yen?

    Weird. I bought my copy off Amazon in January, and I certainly did not pay that much.

    Cichorei Kano wrote:
    Stacey wrote:definitely don't spend a ton of funds on books atm - get the basics.  THey will cost a bit more than a typical paperback because many have diagrams and pictures, but they won't take your breath away, or contest the costs of your gi (let alone your car - $2500? that's waaayyy too much for anybody but an aficionado)

    What Stacey means, is that you should reserve those $2,500 for when my book come out. It comes with a free voucher for a burger.

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    Re: Reading Recommendations please

    Post by Jonesy on Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:36 pm

    Amazon prices are sometimes wrong in Europe due to some data being input with a "," to place the "decimal point".

    Waterstones have the Hoare book £12.99: http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/products/syd+hoare/a+history+of+judo/6423447/

    I suspect the intended price on Amazon is £24.99.

    Get the Hoare book.

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