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    noboru

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    Kodokan museum

    Post by noboru on Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:21 pm

    Here are some photos with description from Kodokan museum
    https://www.stroll-tips.com/en/kodokan-judo/

    Katsu Kaishu caliigraphy:
    “With no disturbance in mind, feel the wonder of nature and without intentional actions, pursue the essence of changes” was brushed by Kaishu Katsu.


    Shiro Saigos judogi


    The first enrollment book has a signature of Shiro Shida.


    oil painting portrait by Heizo Kanei, Kano’s calligraphies and his beloved coat.


    Kano’s beloved inkstone.


    and next artefacts


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    Re: Kodokan museum

    Post by afja_lm139 on Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:44 am

    I took lots of photos there in 2002.  Here is one.  Then I took a few back in 1960. Smile Oh well, guess photos are too large.
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    Re: Kodokan museum

    Post by Ryvai on Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:06 am

    Oh is that Shiro Saigo's gi? I was under the impression that was Jigoro Kano's Smile
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    Re: Kodokan museum

    Post by Jonesy on Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:21 pm

    Ryvai wrote:Oh is that Shiro Saigo's gi? I was under the impression that was Jigoro Kano's Smile
    Both are in the meuseum. The photo is of Saigo's judogi.
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    Jigoro Kano's gi from Kodokan Museum

    Post by noboru on Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:17 pm

    From KuSakura website - Jigoro Kano's gi
    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0443/9625/files/Judogi-Kano.jpg



    Source: https://www.kusakurashop.com/pages/the-kusakura-brand
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    Next one is from http://goltzjudo.com/judogi.htm
    "in the picture the judo gi of Jigoro Kano that is displayed in the Kodokan’s Judo Museum and Library"
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    Re: Kodokan museum

    Post by NBK on Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:36 am

    noboru wrote:From KuSakura website - Jigoro Kano's gi
    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0443/9625/files/Judogi-Kano.jpg



    Source: https://www.kusakurashop.com/pages/the-kusakura-brand
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    Next one is from http://goltzjudo.com/judogi.htm
    "in the picture the judo gi of Jigoro Kano that is displayed in the Kodokan’s Judo Museum and Library"
    Not since the Shroud of Turin has such an humble piece of cloth been endowed with so much symbolism and thought.

    Kano shihan wrote of practicing until it was very late, trudging back to his lodging, and of attaching poultices to his various scrapes and abrasions until he claimed that his schoolmates called him "Stinky'. Why the scrapes?

    One of his innovations was extending the sleeves of this traditionally short sleeved top into the long sleeve top we know today. Why? to keep the players elbows from being beveled off to bone level.

    Same with the 'shorts' which were the standard lower wear.

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    Re: Kodokan museum

    Post by Anatol on Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:46 am

    Hi Noboru,

    Katsu Kaishu calligraphy:

    “With no disturbance in mind, feel the wonder of nature and without intentional actions, pursue the essence of changes”

    was brushed by Kaishu Katsu.

    The calligraphy by Kaishu Katsu is beautiful. Strong brush in running script.

    The translation is "omote"表 and I try one "ura" 裏.

    With an empty Heart-Mind (wu xin / mu shin)
    enter
    the naturalness/spontaneity (ziran)
    of
    the mysterious/wounderful (miao)

    Without action (wu wei)
    !
    after all
    transform (hua)
    to spirit (shen)

    Maybe Katsu Kaishu does a calligraphy of a daoist (zen buddhist) text/sentence.

    States of Mind in Budo:

    Mu Shin:
    http://budobum.blogspot.ch/2015/02/states-of-mind-mushin.html

    Fudo Shin:
    http://budobum.blogspot.ch/2015/03/states-of-mind-fudoshin.html

    Zan Shin
    http://budobum.blogspot.ch/2014/09/awareness-zanshin-or-just-plain-paying.html

    Heijo Shin
    http://budobum.blogspot.ch/2015/11/states-of-mind-heijoshin.html

    I once heard, that Katsu Kaishu was important for Jigoro Kano to establish the Kodokan Judo.

    Maybe NBK could explain the relationship?
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    Re: Kodokan museum

    Post by NBK on Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:26 pm

    Anatol wrote:Hi Noboru,

    Katsu Kaishu calligraphy:

    “With no disturbance in mind, feel the wonder of nature and without intentional actions, pursue the essence of changes”

    was brushed by Kaishu Katsu.

    The calligraphy by Kaishu Katsu is beautiful. Strong brush in running script.

    The translation is "omote"表 and I try one "ura" 裏.

    With an empty Heart-Mind (wu xin / mu shin)
    enter
    the naturalness/spontaneity (ziran)
    of
    the mysterious/wounderful (miao)

    Without action (wu wei)
    !
    after all
    transform (hua)
    to spirit (shen)

    Maybe Katsu Kaishu does a calligraphy of a daoist (zen buddhist) text/sentence.

    States of Mind in Budo:

    Mu Shin:
    http://budobum.blogspot.ch/2015/02/states-of-mind-mushin.html

    Fudo Shin:
    http://budobum.blogspot.ch/2015/03/states-of-mind-fudoshin.html

    Zan Shin
    http://budobum.blogspot.ch/2014/09/awareness-zanshin-or-just-plain-paying.html

    Heijo Shin
    http://budobum.blogspot.ch/2015/11/states-of-mind-heijoshin.html

    I once heard, that Katsu Kaishu was important for Jigoro Kano to establish the Kodokan Judo.

    Maybe NBK could explain the relationship?
    Thanks for the new translation and info, Anatol!

    Yes, I actually spent a lot of time researching to understand the relationship between Count Katsu Kaishu and Kano shihan. It actually extended over decades. Katsu established the first naval training facility in Japan in the fishing port of Kobe, just down the road from where Kano shihan's family lived, and the family sake shipping business shipped sake from the area to Osaka and Edo from there.

    After the Meiji Restoration, after he finally came back to Edo from his voluntary banshiment with his beloved lord Tokugawa in Shizuoka, was rehabilited and became the head of the new Imperial Navy, Count Katsu lived just a few hundred meters from our dojo. A local group of citizens recently put a statute of him and Sakamoto Ryoma out the back gate of our dojo area.
    https://g.co/kgs/sC7yTw

    Here's a statue of Katsu near his birthplace in current day Sumida-ku, Tokyo.
    http://tokyosumida.blog.shinobi.jp/%E5%90%BE%E5%A6%BB%E6%A9%8B/%E5%8B%9D%E6%B5%B7%E8%88%9F%E9%8A%85%E5%83%8F%EF%BC%88%E5%A2%A8%E7%94%B0%E5%8C%BA%E5%BD%B9%E6%89%80%EF%BC%89

    Interestingly, I just dug up an early 1900 article about the jujutsu practice of Sakamoto Ryôma, one of the more interesting and romantic figures in the bakumatsu (end of the bakufu) period. Ryôma (usually known just by his given name), a sonnō jōi (尊皇攘夷 Revere the Emperor, expel the barbarians) samurai actually went to Katsu with the intent to kill him because of his support of opening Japan to foreign intercourse and trade. Katsu calmly said, I understand your intent, but before you carry it out, please sit and let us talk. Katsu talked Ryôma through his logic that Japan had to open up to dealing with foreigners, as the source of the technology Japan needed to compete.

    On the spot, Ryôma became an avid supporter of Katsu, his solid right hand man / lieutenant, but was a source of endless trouble for Katsu, as he was viewed with suspicion by the bakufu.

    Ryôma was eventually assassinated, ironically, by other unrecalicitrant sonnō jōi samurai.

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    Re: Kodokan museum

    Post by johan smits on Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:35 pm

    " an early 1900 article about the jujutsu practice of Sakamoto Ryôma, one of the more interesting and romantic figures in the bakumatsu "?

    We have not mailed in a very long time and I miss our wonderful conversations and your wise counseling.   What a Face

    Happy landings.
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    Re: Kodokan museum

    Post by NBK on Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:14 pm

    johan smits wrote:" an early 1900 article about the jujutsu practice of Sakamoto Ryôma, one of the more interesting and romantic figures in the bakumatsu "?

    We have not mailed in a very long time and I miss our wonderful conversations and your wise counseling.   What a Face  

    Happy landings.
    Yes, it was a happy find, but not one that will shake the history world.

    Most everyone of his age did take some sort of jujutsu.

    Since then I also found an article in which Prince General Yamagata Aritomo discussed how he practiced jujutsu as a kid - and it mostly sounds like choke or be choked.

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    Re: Kodokan museum

    Post by johan smits on Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:19 pm

    But then can't we ask the question: Needs the history world shaking?
    One of the things I have noticed is that there is an enormous amount of interesting information on Japanese martial arts.
    Unfortunately only available for those who have mastered Japanese.

    I started to organize some things here in Holland to see what we can do about this. We are making progress but very little at the time.
    There are some things I would like to ask you, I will pm you.

    Happy landings.

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