Hanon wrote:A pair can 'randori' using atemi only or a mixture PROVIDING the pair understand the rules and are supervised. I have not seen either practiced in well over 30 years not even in my dojo.
Ok, then we are on the same path. Of course an atemi containing randori has to be supervised like every other
randori maybe even a little bit more...
But even with still slight intensity the participants discover many interesting experiences, which not occur during atemi-less randori - for instance:
- some students tends to turn away from danger, some close their eyes
- its very strenuous not to lost track of the "fight"
- there is a little amount of "angst" to be kept under control
- For me is was (to be honest to certain degree it still is) to switch to throws
if it comes to "infight" resp. "close range" and (for me) its a lot more exhausting than atemi-less randori :-(
The most serious injury we had was some nosebleed - ok, our goal is not to hurt or harm, but to provide and accept
a little bit stress through some amount of pain... - Of course, we don't attack joints like knees with kicks,
we don't attack the teeth / eyes / groins, we attack the spine not really and so on...
And of course it is not for everyone and everytime...
The participants their-self must want to do atemi randori.
The risks of injury are too great for the general insurance companies federations of judoka today.
The federation insurances in Germany are paying only for very very serious physical damages - in other words, i can't
remember a case where they have paid someone something...
Its strongly recommended to have a private accident and liability insurance policy...
But other countries other insurances ;-)
On the other side for our public health insurances its (still) no problem if someone engaged in a fighting sport
and gets accidentally hurt... And the "culture" of suing someone because of unintentional sporting accidents is
fortunately still not so common for us... ;-)
sodo wrote:Why do you and the other followers of Tom Herold insist oon repeating the same stupid questions when they have already been answered many times. What Tom is teaching is not judo, it is a LARPing club, it is not recognised by the DJB and not even by the DKK are embarrassed, and that takes some doing
Yes its true i know Tom by seminars and clinics provided by Frank Thiele.
Frank Thiele was long years responsible in Hessen/Germany for teaching judo and preparing judoka for dan exams.
More living judo history is hard to find in Germany...
I'm wondering why "DJB recognition" is now a point for you - DJB is providing olympic judo in last instance...
What did you say here in this thread?
sodo wrote:Do you call olyimpic judo, judo, you really are naive aren't you Very Happy
This was discussed several times on the old forum, Olympic and IJF judo is just business, money and has as much to do with judo as club cycling has to do with the "Tour de France
Beside of this, your continuously uttered insulting "stupid" "BS" attitude is very very insightful...