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    New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Cichorei Kano on Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:41 am



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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Stacey on Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:32 pm

    yeah, I read that earlier.  the pictures just disturb me.  guess most aren't wearing contact lenses (or is this a new definition of contact lens?)

    I must be getting old - I just don't get it.
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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Cichorei Kano on Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:19 pm

    Stacey wrote:yeah, I read that earlier.  the pictures just disturb me.  guess most aren't wearing contact lenses (or is this a new definition of contact lens?)

    I must be getting old - I just don't get it.


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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Quicksilver on Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:33 pm

    Call me crazy but the only thing I find particularly surprising about this phenomenon is its prevalence among relatively very young people. As such practices go, this is far more explicable than some.


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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Cichorei Kano on Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:36 pm

    Quicksilver,

    Please, elaborate on your last statement. I feel a philosophical debate coming up !  Laughing


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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Cichorei Kano on Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:37 pm

    Hey Stacey,


    And I thought you were so open-minded. Just imagine, a glas of cabernet, some saxophone music, biker shorts, and a set of yummy eyeballs ...


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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by rjohnston411 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:34 pm

    Japan can be one strange place sometimes.
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    Post by Dutch Budo on Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:48 am

    Meh Ive seen and heard of a lot worse than this.


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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by kiti on Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:42 am

    Gross!
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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Stacey on Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:34 am

    Cichorei Kano wrote:Hey Stacey,


    And I thought you were so open-minded. Just imagine, a glas of cabernet, some saxophone music, biker shorts, and a set of yummy eyeballs ...

    Yeah, you had me up to the eyeballs.  I'd much rather look longingly into a pair of beautiful eyes than stick my tongue in somebody's beautiful eyes.


    and, then there would be the conundrum of eyes that bite back:


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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Cichorei Kano on Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:57 am

    Well Kiti and Stacey,

    You'd better be careful then next time you're in a restaurant and you ask "Excuse me, sir, but don't you have anything simple, like soup ?"

    See 01'32"



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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by kiti on Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:15 am

    LOL, CK!
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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Stacey on Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:36 am

    .... there's an eyeball in my highball....
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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by NBK on Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:16 pm

    Having lived here for what suddenly seems to be way too long, I gotta say, it's not the eyeballs, it's the bat guano on the lashes and eyelids that you gotta watch out for....




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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Cichorei Kano on Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:10 am

    Yes, and size does mater ...



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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Q mystic on Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:33 pm

    I had a wedding near 3 years ago in Cambodia in the jungle where I called a band playing for us, "Japanese punk".  This, I now know is really called, "cosplay" costume play

    Hot!!!!!!!!!!!!

    lol at what a geek I was not 3 yrs ago.

    and 'punk'?lol I am fail.


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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Q mystic on Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:39 pm

    here's the tune that smoked me, again, tho. In the jungle, lots of lights and everyone on stage looking beautiful.  Don't watch the vid, just listen loud...


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Q8usWokic

    I was a KISS fan.haha


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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by NBK on Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:02 pm

    The readers' editor on… how we fell into the trap of reporting Japan's eyeball-licking craze as fact

    The story was all over the web, but it was not especially difficult to cast doubts on the claim that there was an epidemic of tongue-induced pink eye

    Chris Elliott
    The Guardian, Sunday 25 August 2013 19.00 BST


    The web is voracious. It gobbles up stories, themes and memes like a monster from outer space. With the merest puff of wind to launch them, a bewildering slew of tales take off, powered by the perpetual motion of repetition.

    The Guardian was among a crowd that made the mistake of filling the sails of one of the weirder stories to take off in this way. The article appeared on the Shortcuts blog. It aims to be a fast-paced humorous column, which is described as "trending topics and news analysis".

    The headline on the story, posted on 14 June 2013, is: "Eyeball-licking: the fetish that is making Japanese teenagers sick". The author explains that the article will be about "oculolinctus, an eye-licking fetish that is currently sweeping across the schools of Japan like, well, like a great big dirty bacteria-coated tongue sweeping across a horrific number of adolescent eyeballs … oculolinctus is being blamed for a significant rise in Japanese cases of conjunctivitis and eye-chlamydia … It's apparently seen as a new second-base; the thing you graduate to when kissing gets boring."

    He goes on to say that the craze may have been started by a music video made by a Japanese band called Born. He wrote: "Tumblr, inevitably, is filling up with drawings and unnecessarily close-up photographs of the act, and YouTube is no stranger either."

    The story was indeed all over the web, on the sites of mainstream news and independent websites alike.

    The man who punctured the credibility of the story is Mark Schreiber, a journalist, author and translator who has lived in Japan since 1965. He contacted three Japanese professional organisations, including two ophthalmological associations and an organisation of school clinicians. They knew nothing about any such craze. He wrote about his findings in Number 1 Shimbun, the Foreign Correspondents' Club of Japan's monthly magazine.

    In his article, he wrote: "Debunking an anonymous, unattributed story may be impossible, but it was not especially difficult to at least cast doubts on the sweeping claim that large numbers of Japanese adolescents were suffering from an epidemic of tongue-induced pink eye, as the blogs were now claiming.

    "Convinced at this point that the story was based on a hoax, I fired off emails to editors who saw fit to run the story, at Raw Story, the SF Chronicle, the Syracuse Post-Standard, Shanghailist and several others," he wrote.

    "A few responded. None of them were prompted to remove the story from their site. 'We didn't write the story, dude. It's a syndicated story,' was how Raw Story's editor responded, advising me that if it was good enough for the Guardian, it was good enough for her."

    In most cases that is the kind of reputation the Guardian would seek. Not in this one. In a limited search, I can't find any verifiable evidence that there ever was such an "epidemic".

    Schreiber wrote to the Guardian readers' editor on 23 June to explain that Raw Story's editor refused to take the story down because we had not. I overlooked that email in the face of what appeared more pressing problems – my mistake.

    Stuart Heritage, the author of the Guardian article, has apologised. But editors are also responsible and, notwithstanding the web's especially insistent time pressures, should have encouraged him to take a more sceptical approach.

    He said: "I think the tight deadline might have caused me to be a little careless here – the story had already been reported at the Huffington Post and the National Student, before other mainstream outlets picked it up. A few days after that, I was asked to write about it. My checks were limited to searches of Tumblr and YouTube, which seemed to confirm the craze's veracity.

    "Both sites are linked to in the piece.

    "My intention was to comment on the coverage, and not the eyeball-licking itself, but in all the hurry I think I might have fumbled it."

    Schreiber concluded his article by quoting a Japan-based UK correspondent who said he couldn't imagine that "journalists who write blogs, contribute as freelancers, etc, are held to different editorial standards than staff and other full-time writers". Schreiber went on: "Tracking this story from its source to its audience has convinced me otherwise."

    Complaints of this nature are rare but on this occasion we fell into the trap. We will remove the story from the site.

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    I know Mark Schreiber - very knowledgeable of some very odd Things Japanese.

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    Re: New Japanese craze: "oculolingus" or "eyeball licking"

    Post by Cichorei Kano on Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:38 pm

    I have some trouble following. It seems to me that two things are mixed: 1. poor journalism in the Internet age, and 2. the story being or not being a hoax.

    There is lots of poor journalism on the Internet, obviously, and so the repetition of stuff will no doubt promote these things. That the original story may have been a product of poor journalism, that may well be true, but so is this story (as I understand it) that claims the story was a hoax. Where is the evidence ? That is to say, there are two more things mixed, namely the occurrence of eyeball licking as new fetish, and whether or not there is an epidemic of eye infections due to this.

    Just calling a few ophtalmologists who are not aware of this is not proof that there is no such 'epidemic'. Likely many people with eventual eye irritation simply do not go see a doctor, and some might just got to a pharmacy and do self-treatment with over the counter products. I think that it was quite obvious from the original story that 'epidemic' was used liberally to say "more and more incidences" rather than in the correct scientific-epidemiologic meaning as we use the term when referring to influenza epidemics. I don't think that anybody really understood the story as implying that thousands and thousands of people are regularly engaging in eyeball licking. It was more curiosum of something that was experimented with. The various videoclips posted on Youtube of teenagers trying this out are people trying this out. They are not fakes. Now it may very well be that it ws the first and only time they engaged in this, but the certainly did to have it taped. These are not orchestrated clips by some company using professional actors.

    So whether what this journalist alleges is true or not, in my opinon, cannot be derived from the information he provides and the few things he did. But maybe I am missing some point ?


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